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She was
nbsp;gt;talking as if my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing.

When dealing with one recruiter, he was really impressed with my resume
and told me that based on that resume, I should be earning double what I
had been.There were virtually
nbsp;gt;no jobs available at that time.
nbsp;With yourdefeatist attitude, you'll have a very hard time finding one
nbsp;though.

If you just want to go to Canada to work then tahts what work permits are
for.ca
nbsp;gt;Date: 5/2/03 2:47 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
nbsp;gt;Message-id:
nbsp;gt;Greg_Del_Pilar wrote:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;Stuart:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;Thank you for taking the time to write these.here.canada.She was
nbsp;gt;talking as if my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing.They are certainly scarce and you really have to
sell yourself well to get them, but there most certainly are jobs. I presented it to my counsellor
who asked me those two questions .What I noted was the fact that over 90% of these resumes
offered me virtually identical skill sets with nothing to make one
person preferable to another.They are certainly scarce and you really have to
nbsp;gt;sell yourself well to get them, but there most certainly are jobs.
nbsp;Not so long ago, I had to hire someone, and I got a heap of over 200
nbsp;resumes. The So What? hurt.nothere@not.

I don't care if you're an MCSE . If you don't want to live there then
you are a fool for applying. So what? If there are 100 other people
nbsp;gt;offering this skill, what makes my offering it special?When you can
nbsp;gt;answer those questions in your resume, then you'll get a job. Not find one
specific job but find a job in general.ca.

NorthernLigths25 wrote:
nbsp;
nbsp;YEAH RIGHT!
nbsp;
nbsp;gt;Subject: Re: NO HIGH TECH JOBS IN CANADA
nbsp;gt;From: S B s_brook.

I spent hours working on my resume .for.
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;I spent hours working on my resume .F3255E66@not.Did you save them money?Did you improve
nbsp;their bottom line?If yes, then say so and how what you did actually
nbsp;achieved that.canada.What I noted was the fact that over 90% of these resumes
nbsp;offered me virtually identical skill sets with nothing to make one
nbsp;person preferable to another.You have about 6-8 seconds to make
nbsp;gt;the right impact.for.

With yourdefeatist attitude, you'll have a very hard time finding one
though.
nbsp;gt;One of the very important things to remember when coming to Canada now,
nbsp;gt;you can't get away with the traditional CV style resume.

nbsp;gt;Subject: Re: NO HIGH TECH JOBS IN CANADA
nbsp;gt;From: S B s_brook.What you did
nbsp;gt;in technical terms won't get your resume past the HR screener who's got
nbsp;gt;a heap of resumes in front of him. It's a voluntary
thing offering you the ability to live in Canada.nothere@not.here.canada.canada. The IT
industry started going down the toilet (relative to it's previous success)
years ago.It still took
nbsp;gt;me 5 months to get a job.
nbsp;When you prepare your resume, when you show that you did something, ask
nbsp;yourself the questions .

DrewS Bwrote in message
news:3EB26540.ca
nbsp;gt;Date: 5/2/03 2:47 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
nbsp;gt;Message-id:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;Greg_Del_Pilar wrote:
nbsp;gt;gt;
nbsp;gt;Stuart:
nbsp;gt;gt;
nbsp;gt;Thank you for taking the time to write these.All the recruiters I spoke to had
hundreds of resumes and about 2 jobs per week per agency.It still took
me 5 months to get a job.Did you save them money?Did you improve
their bottom line?If yes, then say so and how what you did actually
achieved that.What she
meant was that my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing in the way
I presented it.All the recruiters I spoke to had
nbsp;gt;hundreds of resumes and about 2 jobs per week per agency.One of those
nbsp;got the job.I want to see something
to convince me that you'd be an asset to my company. The So What? hurt.Therefore, you not only need to show what you did
technically for your employers, but show how what you did actually
benefited those companies.There were virtually
no jobs available at that time. So really unless people are unable to do any research at all then they
msut accept they knew the risks before hand.
nbsp;gt;Once your resume gets past the HR screener, then the technical part of
nbsp;gt;your resume matters.here.It still took
nbsp;gt;me 5 months to get a job. If you can't get a specific IT job
then try a different job area.
nbsp;There are still far too many resumes out there that are no different
nbsp;from any other resume.here.

I agree with you Adrian. The points
process is supposed to determine yoru ability to find work. But let's not forget one thing - there have
nbsp;gt;been far worse situations in past - the recession of the late 80s to
nbsp;gt;early 90s was even worse in terms of jobs and earnings.

To be extremely cliche and quote a film, who is the more fool? the fool or
the fool who follows?

All the data about the Canadian jobmarket is available, there are countless
forums like this where people whine about not being able to get certain
jobs.What you did
in technical terms won't get your resume past the HR screener who's got
a heap of resumes in front of him. But let's not forget one thing - there have
nbsp;been far worse situations in past - the recession of the late 80s to
nbsp;early 90s was even worse in terms of jobs and earnings. I presented it to my counsellor
nbsp;gt;who asked me those two questions .

No Jobs in Canada in every sector.
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;Greg
nbsp;gt;You're welcome!After being laid off from a major computer manufacturer
nbsp;gt;several years ago, I was sent to an outplacement counselling service to
nbsp;gt;learn how to get jobs in a difficult marketplace. why don't
people apply for PR in say the UK? because you can't just apply for PR.She was
talking as if my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing.
nbsp;
nbspotemtial immigrants should keep that in mind before coming here and
nbsp;be prepared to bail yourself out for quite long periods-6 months, 1
nbsp;year, perhaps even longer.One of those
got the job.
nbsp;gt;gt;
nbsp;gt;Greg
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;You're welcome!After being laid off from a major computer manufacturer
nbsp;gt;several years ago, I was sent to an outplacement counselling service to
nbsp;gt;learn how to get jobs in a difficult marketplace. so are lots of other people - that
doesn't make you the better person for a job.
nbsp;One of the very important things to remember when coming to Canada now,
nbsp;you can't get away with the traditional CV style resume.att.ca
nbsp;gt;Date: 5/2/03 12:01 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
nbsp;gt;Message-id:
nbsp;gt;Aaron wrote:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;I agree with you Adrian.
nbsp;gt;
nbspotemtial immigrants should keep that in mind before coming here and
nbsp;be prepared to bail yourself out for quite long periods-6 months, 1
nbsp;year, perhaps even longer. you just have to know
nbsp;how to find 'em.
nbsp;gt;I don't care if you're an MCSE .There were about 6 resumes in that heap
nbsp;that told me not only that they had a group of skill sets, but also how
nbsp;they used those skills to the benefit of their employer. If you want to *live* in Canada permanently then
get PR and live there. Jobs in general, hi-tech jobs in particular
nbsp;gt;are very hard to come by.att. Jobs in general, hi-tech jobs in particular
nbsp;are very hard to come by.spam.att.
nbsp;I don't care if you're an MCSE .I want to see something
nbsp;gt;to convince me that you'd be an asset to my company.

Once your resume gets past the HR screener, then the technical part of
your resume matters.
nbsp;Aaron wrote:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;I agree with you Adrian.

adrian starkey wrote:
nbsp;
nbsp;There are NO JOBS HERE

There are jobs here.canada.
nbsp;gt;When dealing with one recruiter, he was really impressed with my resume
nbsp;gt;and told me that based on that resume, I should be earning double what I
nbsp;gt;had been.ca.There were about 6 resumes in that heap
nbsp;gt;that told me not only that they had a group of skill sets, but also how
nbsp;gt;they used those skills to the benefit of their employer.

Don;t listen to Stuart Brooks he says a lot (OF NONSENSE). you just have to know
how to find 'em.My resume would just go in the bin as not really
nbsp;gt;interesting.

Greg_Del_Pilar wrote:
nbsp;
nbsp;Stuart:
nbsp;
nbsp;Thank you for taking the time to write these.1EE845D9@not.for.To whom it may concern

there are NO high tech jobs in Canada

please hang up and try again!

adrian starkey wrote:
nbsp;
nbsp;To whom it may concern
nbsp;
nbsp;there are NO high tech jobs in Canada
nbsp;
nbsp;please hang up and try again!

Well, if you rely on the means that you may have used elsewhere to get
jobs, you probably will not find a high tech job in Canada in the
current market, but there are jobs available .

Most countries, certianly western type industrial nations, have immigration
programmes. I presented it to my counsellor
nbsp;gt;who asked me those two questions .

Stuart:

Thank you for taking the time to write these.Did you save them money?Did you improve
nbsp;gt;their bottom line?If yes, then say so and how what you did actually
nbsp;gt;achieved that.spam.Therefore, you not only need to show what you did
nbsp;technically for your employers, but show how what you did actually
nbsp;benefited those companies.
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;When dealing with one recruiter, he was really impressed with my resume
nbsp;gt;and told me that based on that resume, I should be earning double what I
nbsp;gt;had been.canada.
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gtotemtial immigrants should keep that in mind before coming here and
nbsp;gt;be prepared to bail yourself out for quite long periods-6 months, 1
nbsp;gt;year, perhaps even longer.

There are still far too many resumes out there that are no different
from any other resume.

Canada is incredibly generous in that it allows people to aquire permanent
residence without even having lived there or having a job. So what? If there are 100 other people
offering this skill, what makes my offering it special?When you can
answer those questions in your resume, then you'll get a job.So I asked him where the jobs were that would pay me that!
nbsp;gt;He said Not here, not now! But at least I stood a chance unlike people
nbsp;gt;with poor resumes. So
if the IT market is struggling in an economy as huge as the US or even the
UK which has twice the population of Canada then how could you in reality
expect Canada to have more? How is it that all these H1B guys for example
who have all been fired from hitech jobs in the US and therefore have to
leave think that if they can't get a hightech job in the US they must be
guaranteed one in Canada somehow?

The truth is they goto Canada because Canada makes it *easier* for them.

Really if you are moving to a new country having never visited, never done
any research, never made enquiries about jobs etc, then thats really not
entirely smart.
nbsp;gt;I spent hours working on my resume .What I noted was the fact that over 90% of these resumes
nbsp;gt;offered me virtually identical skill sets with nothing to make one
nbsp;gt;person preferable to another.
nbsp;gt;There are still far too many resumes out there that are no different
nbsp;gt;from any other resume. The alternative is to have
no way to live in Canada which is stupid.ca.Therefore, you not only need to show what you did
nbsp;gt;technically for your employers, but show how what you did actually
nbsp;gt;benefited those companies.spam.
People whine about the Canadian immigration system but why don't these guys
apply for permanent residency in the US? because they can't.6642754C@not.What she
nbsp;gt;meant was that my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing in the way
nbsp;gt;I presented it.spam.

Potemtial immigrants should keep that in mind before coming here and
be prepared to bail yourself out for quite long periods-6 months, 1
year, perhaps even longer.
nbsp;adrian starkey wrote:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;To whom it may concern
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;there are NO high tech jobs in Canada
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;please hang up and try again!
nbsp;Well, if you rely on the means that you may have used elsewhere to get
nbsp;jobs, you probably will not find a high tech job in Canada in the
nbsp;current market, but there are jobs available .
nbsp;
nbsp;GregYou're welcome!After being laid off from a major computer manufacturer
several years ago, I was sent to an outplacement counselling service to
learn how to get jobs in a difficult marketplace. The So What? hurt. so are lots of other people - that
nbsp;doesn't make you the better person for a job. You
have to haveajob and a work permit and live tehre X amount of time first.

When you prepare your resume, when you show that you did something, ask
yourself the questions .spam.

It's true that Canada needs immigrants to fill the job market, but it's not
true that they say all 100% of immigrants wil work in the IT sector.
nbsp;gt;Not so long ago, I had to hire someone, and I got a heap of over 200
nbsp;gt;resumes.Out of touch on reality.for.

nbsp;gt;Subject: Re: NO HIGH TECH JOBS IN CANADA
nbsp;gt;From: S B s_brook.You have about 6-8 seconds to make
the right impact. So you could say Canadian Immigration was a
scam if it actually promised you anything, but it doesn't.att.
nbsp;IT'S A GOVERNMENT SCAM $CDN1500 (landing fees) worth X 350,000 per year

S Bwrote in message
news:3EB1D470.

Stuart Brooks sounds like that former Iraqi Minister of Information, wishful
thinking idiotic attitude.att. Jobs in general, hi-tech jobs in particular
nbsp;are very hard to come by.My resume would just go in the bin as not really
interesting.

Greg

S Bwrote in message
news:3EB2883A. They all cost money, there aren't any governments that will do
months of processing documents for free.There were about 6 resumes in that heap
that told me not only that they had a group of skill sets, but also how
they used those skills to the benefit of their employer.

nbsp;There are NO JOBS HERE
nbsp;Every agency
nbsp;Every paper
nbsp;Every Company
nbsp;Every Angle possible
nbsp;Companies are not hiring just look at the US and you will see what's to
come
nbsp;to a company near you
nbsp;Don't kid yourself
nbsp;If you are thinking of coming to Canada think very hard and be darn
nbsp;confident you can
nbsp;get a job in your chosen profession
nbsp;Canada is having enough trouble finding jobs for it's own graduates let
nbsp;alone YOU!
nbsp;Oh and don't forget all those H1B visa folk streaming across from the
south
nbsp;because of
nbsp;IBM QUEST ORACLE etc etc.

All of it is to give you the oppertunity to live there under the pretence
that you actually *want* to live there.spam. It's the same everywhere.My resume would just go in the bin as not really
nbsp;gt;interesting.So I asked him where the jobs were that would pay me that!
He said Not here, not now! But at least I stood a chance unlike people
with poor resumes.
nbsp;gt;When you prepare your resume, when you show that you did something, ask
nbsp;gt;yourself the questions .

Not so long ago, I had to hire someone, and I got a heap of over 200
resumes.for.for. You need to use a bit of commonsense.What you did
nbsp;in technical terms won't get your resume past the HR screener who's got
nbsp;a heap of resumes in front of him.There were virtually
nbsp;gt;no jobs available at that time.All the recruiters I spoke to had
nbsp;gt;hundreds of resumes and about 2 jobs per week per agency. Find a job and get a work permit and go do the job and then leave if
the job is no longer there.nothere@not.nothere@not.

Aaron wrote:
nbsp;
nbsp;I agree with you Adrian.ca
nbsp;gt;Date: 5/2/03 9:32 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
nbsp;gt;Message-id:
nbsp;gt;adrian starkey wrote:
nbsp;gt;
nbsp;gt;There are NO JOBS HERE
nbsp;gt;There are jobs here. Canada is a country of 30 million
people, it's only 10% of the US population.spam.I want to see something
nbsp;to convince me that you'd be an asset to my company.One of those
nbsp;gt;got the job.

That was in the good ole USA by the way!

Mr. If you care more about your job than where
you live why are you migrating in the first place.

Usually a scam has to promise you something which is unattainable in an
attempt to con you out of money.So I asked him where the jobs were that would pay me that!
nbsp;gt;He said Not here, not now! But at least I stood a chance unlike people
nbsp;gt;with poor resumes.
nbsp;Once your resume gets past the HR screener, then the technical part of
nbsp;your resume matters.canada. In fact
I don't see anywhere it saying that there are 350,000 IT jobs a year being
held specificly for immigrants.

YEAH RIGHT!

nbsp;gt;Subject: Re: NO HIGH TECH JOBS IN CANADA
nbsp;gt;From: S B s_brook.att.for.
nbsp;gt;With yourdefeatist attitude, you'll have a very hard time finding one
nbsp;gt;though.here. But let's not forget one thing - there have
nbsp;been far worse situations in past - the recession of the late 80s to
nbsp;early 90s was even worse in terms of jobs and earnings.here.

One of the very important things to remember when coming to Canada now,
you can't get away with the traditional CV style resume. so are lots of other people - that
nbsp;gt;doesn't make you the better person for a job. Jobs in general, hi-tech jobs in particular
are very hard to come by.att.They are certainly scarce and you really have to
nbsp;sell yourself well to get them, but there most certainly are jobs.here.What she
nbsp;gt;meant was that my 20+ years of experience counted for nothing in the way
nbsp;gt;I presented it. S B,
Could you show me samples of non-traditional CV style resume (any
website, links, plain ol' samples)?
Thank You
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